Posted by Frank on September 13, 2001 at 14:57:25:

In Reply to: Re: Sad Day posted by Jim in Dallas on September 13, 2001 at 10:57:01:

That government ineptitude displayed at the airports is the result of the citizens of this country insisting that our rights and freedoms not be violated by "unnecessary and intrusive" regulations and searches.
NOT AN EXCUSE FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO ABDICATE IT'S RESPONSIBILITIES AS IT OFTEN DOES. I REALLY FEEL IGNORANT. I DID NOT KNOW UNTIL THIS TIME THAT AIRPORT SECURITY PERSONELL WERE NOT GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES.

An armed guard on a plane is useless. He can't use his gun since he could possibly rupture the hull of the plane causing violent decompression and the plane to crash (just what the terrorists want).

YOUR FOLLOWUP COMMENTS ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT

I can certainly agree with your feelings (I really do). BTW, MY FEELINGS ARE MORE EXPERIENCE THAN EMOTION. I WAS OVER THERE 1968-9. FRONT LINES GROUND TROOPS, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT ALL. But right now during this troubling time, I'm thankful for many things about how Bush is handling the situation, and its not because he's from Texas. DITTO

I'm thankful that we have a President:DITTO

1. whose first action is to genuinely turn to God for reassurance and guidance. SORRY, BUT THIS IS A WASTE OF TIME AND EFFORT. I HAVE NO QUARRELL WITH THOSE WHO BELIEVE, BUT GOD WILL BE OF NO MORE HELP IN RESOLVING THIS MATTER THAN GOD HAS BEEN IN PREVENTING IT. FACT IS, THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF GOD IS AT THE ROOT OF MOST HUMAN CONFLICT.

2. who genuinely cares about the victims, their families, and the rescuers involved DITTO

3. who has the presence of mind to react with control and determination, measuring his comments and actions. Not giving away his intentions to the enemies of our country (no doubt they realize we are coming, I don't want them to know how, when, and from where)

I HOPE SO

4. who, working with his cabinet, will find the perpetrators of this attack and will act appropriately with the full force and strength required to bring them to justice (read: MAKE THEM PAY) and send the proper message (read: DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT) to anyone who considers trying this again.

AGAIN I HOPE SO, BUT 'THIS FOR THAT' WILL ONLY BE ANOTHER SKIRMISH IN A NEVERENDING BATTLE

5. who has the integrity to stand up to the terrorists of this world instead of kissing up to them (8 years of this is 9 years too long) AGREED, AGREED, AGREED. BUT IT HASN'T BEEN FOR JUST 8 YEARS. WE TURNED TAIL AND RAN WHEN THE MARINE BARRACKS WAS BOMBED IN THE REAGAN ADMINISTRATION. I FORGET HOW LONG AGO THAT WAS. DITTO IN SOMALIA, AND DOZENS OF OTHER INCIDENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.

6. who, I believe, through his actions and how he deals with this situation, will make us proud I HOPE SO

7. and so much more I HOPE SO

WISH I COULD FIGURE OUT A WAY TO HELP

As Americans we will "feel good" again because we (our president and country) did what was right and in the right way. I HOPE SO We will stand for freedom and defend ourselves against any attackers (but we are going to get the right ones). We won't be feeling good because we have a president who is a great orator. Someone who says things to just make us "feel good" but doesn't have the integrity and determination to stand up for America against our enemies. We've had too much of that (our current situation is the result).

Bush isn't a great orator, but I believe he will do what is right. We can't (and shouldn't) go attack every punk "would be" terrorist in the world. MUST DISAGREE HERE. NOT ONLY THESE, BUT THEIR MOTHERS AND THEIR FATHERS AND THEIR CHILDREN AND THEIR BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND THEIR FAMILIES AND THE TOWNS AND CITIES THEY LIVE IN AND ON AND ON. SUCH MUST BE THE FRUITS OF TERROISM, OR IT WILL NEVER STOP. THIS WILL STOP IT FROM WITHIN. I WILL ACCEPT ANYTHING LESS THAT WOULD WORK, BUT I WOULD ALSO PULL THIS TRIGGER. ALL BUSINESS, ALL POLITICS, AND ALL WAR IS PERSONAL. So, we must identify the true perpetrators and the countries that help them and go after them. Our actions should be above board and appropriate, but in the end our appropriate response should complete and devastating. That will send the proper message to any future "would be" terrorists (unfortunately, there will always be some that are stupid enough to try again). IF THAT CAN BE DONE SHORT OF COMPLETE ANNIALATION OK, BUT IF NOT, SO BE IT.

SPECIAL THANKS TO SANDMAN FOR ALLOWING THIS DIVERSION FROM FORUM STANDARDS AT THIS TRYING TIME.

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