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Re: Does anyone relate to any of this?

Posted by seabrooke on April 09, 2007 at 23:39:13:

In Reply to: Does anyone relate to any of this? posted by Joy on April 09, 2007 at 07:19:35:

Hi Joy,

Yeah, the typical "you are depressed and are ADD" diagnoses! Sorry, I am not a professional but you know as well as I do that these two illnesses are typically OVER diagnosed. Most of the time when doctors have no clue what is wrong with a person they will just tell you that it is all in your head. I will give you a breif example of this, when I was a child I suffered greatly for several years from kidney stones. I use to urinate pure blood. Do you know what many doctors told my parents? "Your son is making it up, it's all in his head." The reason why they did that was because these idiots could not figure out what was wrong with me until several years later. So any ways... I just want to let you know this! Years later, when I was diagnosed with narcolepsy, many people would say to me, "You are depressed." Why would people say that? Because uneducated people do not know any better Joy! Like I said, I am not a professional, however be very careful about what you are being diagnosed with. It DOES sound like you have a serious sleep disorder! Just because it has not been proven yet, medically, does not mean that it is all up in your head, such as depression or anxiety. If anything, people suffering from sleep disorders can suffer depression. There are many illnesses that can cause depression (even being diagnosed with cancer can cause depression), but the cure is not curing the depression, it is curing the root of the problem, the illness! So if you are suffering from a sleep disorder, this WOULD be the root of your depression. Unfortunately not all sleep disorders can be cured or properly maintained, such as narcolepsy. (We live in a world where most people think that if you go see a doctor that everything will be o.k. and cured just by popping a pill. However that is not reality all of the time! Narcolepsy is one of those things that very little can be done for. But yet ignorant people will think that it is because you have not recieved proper medical care. These people are idiots! I have even had idoits ask me, "why don't you go see a doctor for your problems?" When I tell them that I have and I have a sleep disorder that very little can be done for they just look at me baffled. Then they just repeat themselves, "Well why don't you see a doctor for it?" Or they will THEN come to some prediction that I am depressed and say, "Go get some professional help." It is scarey that we live in a world with uneducated idots like that) I know I made this long BUT that is something that gets on my nerves a lot. Today in medicine, anytime there are illnesses that cannot be explained, the medical community always comes up with something new like ADD, ADHD, depression, chronic fatique syndrome, etc...
Seriously Joy, it does sound like you have a real sleep disorder!
Also ask yourself this question, Usually if somebody is depressed don't they sleep a lot? (Hence why narcoleptics easily get the label of "being depressed" stuck to them!) In your case you said that you cannot fall asleep. Second, isn't it true that when somebody is fatigued (extremely tired) they look as if they are feeling down and depressed by other people observing them? By the sounds of it Joy you say that you are EXTREMELY tired and fatigued. Any ways...this could all be linked to a sleep disorder. (Lack of motivation, lack of alertness, lack of memory, weakness in your limbs (body fatigue), low energy, strange sensations, drowsiness, etc...)Yes, these are all classical examples of somebody who has a sleep disorder. However you never know because it could be caused by any kind of health problems, even neurological. Insomnia is also another posibility, even apnea too! If you are not getting enough sleep during the night then this would definitly affect your fatigue levels during the day. People with apnea will constantly wake up during the night because they actually stop breathing for a few seconds while they are asleep. A person with apnea would not be aware of their lack of oxygen while sleeping, hence why so many people with apnea can never make a link to why they are always waking up during the night or for their EDS (excessive daytime sleepiness.)
The only conclusion Joy is for you to have a sleep test done by a neurologist, sleep specialist (sleep center). All you will be required to do is fall asleep while they connect electrodes to your head, face, leg, and also they will hook you up to a heart monitor. Through this sleep test they will be able to tell beyond a fraction of a doubt if you have a sleep disorder or not. I know that there are a lot of people who question this kind of testing but this is not a taboo science. They are reading your brain waves through an EEG, these machines do not lie! If you have a sleep disorder it will show up clear as day!

So any ways, this would be the best step for you to take to try to resolve your sleep problem.
But you are coming to a conclusion about something Joy, you are starting to question why you are tired all of the time and why you cannot sleep. At least you are realizing the serious nature of sleep as being the source of your problem! Understand that it is only in the Western world where people are too arrogant to realize the importance of sleep. It is only here in the Western world where medicine only treats the symptoms instead of treating the problem that is causing the symptoms! So ask yourself, "Is it anxiety, that is causing the problem? Or is it A PROBLEM that is causing your anxiety?" I would bet a million bucks that it "IS A PROBLEM" that is causing your anxiety and not the other way around!!! However if you are suffering from a sleep disorder things like stress and anxiety are not good and can worsen the sleep disorder (Thus resulting in you suffering from bad health.)

Don't count on taboo medicine to predict and guess what is wrong with you. Go get a sleep test done (REAL SCIENCE) and see if maybe your problems are neurological, such as a sleep disorder.

Think about it, guessing at stuff like your health is no different then saying, "I think I have cancer BECAUSE OF ANXIETY, or because of my childhood." No, if you are an intelligent person, which I believe you are, then you know that is NOT the case! If you are sick it is because of a medical problem, not because of stress or anxiety. (Anxiety, as I stated earlier, CAN make an existing medical problem worse both mentally and physically!)

Trust me Joy, you will hear people from all walks of life, including some doctors, who will tell you what they "predict" is wrong with you (with no medical evidence to prove it.) Do yourself a favor, PROVE through medical science (Multiple Sleep Latency Test and a Polysomnograph) that you either have or have not a sleep disorder before jumping to conclusions that it is all up in your head, anxiety, depression, ADD, etc...

I know I wrote a long reply but this stuff tics me off so much. All my life I had to pick up with idiots who, even to this day, are to simple minded to understand that I have a real medical condition called Narcolepsy. Joy, I have had people think that I was and still am a depressed person, ADD, simple minded, lazy, "all up in my head" and if I change the way I think then I will be better, etc... That is no better then if a person see's somebody who is unconscious and they officially pronounce the person dead, without checking to see if there is a pulse, temperature, etc...! So any ways, I had to pick up with so much of this in my life, even to this day! If anything all of these people made me depressed because of their own stupidity and lack of humanity and diginity towards me and my life!

Don't allow that to happen to you and don't allow anyone, even yourself, to PREDICT what COULD be wrong with you. Because years of your life will pass by and the story will always change from you having one problem to the next by people you know or even by doctors.

Go get a sleep test done and prove beyond a doubt that you do or do not have a sleep disorder. That is all I can tell you.

Hope this helps you out.

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